Merry Christmas We have received quite a bit of feedback from listeners who expressed interest in getting to know Dr. Dirkmaat a little better. Gerrit has always wanted the podcast to focus more on Joseph Smith and Church History and less on his High School basketball career in Shelley, ID. That said after much cajoling Gerrit has finally acquiesced and in this episode, we are joined by his wife Angie Dirkmaat and his brother Dallan Dirkmaat. This is a fun episode where we shed light on Gerrit’s upbringing and talk about how he met his lovely wife. We promise to get Gerrit’s mom on at some point in the future.

Richard does quite a bit more talking in this episode than in other episodes and he felt it was important to provide a disclaimer so that you are aware that you are about to waste your time and not listen.

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